a little exchange between john mccain and john kerry earlier today. watch this. >> senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> i think thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here. we're just having fun. >> so here's the serious question, though, i'll start, james, with you, once again. who do you think would be a better secretary of state? would it be john kerry, the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, or susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations? >> i honestly have no idea. i would say john kerry because i know senator kerry. i don't know if i've met ambassador rice before. but to be honest with you, both of them are imminently qualified people. i can't imagine either one of them would do anything other than a spectacular job. but i'm a political guy, not a foreign policy guy. i'm just unable to really render a very knowledgeable -- >> let me rephrase the question. politically speaking, who would the president be better off nominating? >> politically speaking? probably ambassador rice because sh